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Author: | Joel [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:07 pm ] |
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G'day again! I've noticed in my wandering through the archives some pictures of guitars with soundholes in the upper bout in addition to the normal soundhole. I haven't seen or read of anything like this before. What is this hole for? What are the pro's and con's? Joel. |
Author: | Alain Lambert [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:20 pm ] |
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This is called a soundport. It gives the player more sound. I have never made one myself, but you are right, we see it quite often. It seems to be the new "fashion" |
Author: | Joel [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:09 pm ] |
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So its like a built in fold back? Not a bad idea. |
Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:31 pm ] |
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Soundports are kind of nice. They come in all forms. here is one of mine. ![]() |
Author: | Lillian F-W [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:42 am ] |
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Andy, did you reinforce the paw on the inside? |
Author: | bob J [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:12 am ] |
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I have heard and strumed guitars w/ sound-hole port and yes, the sound for the player is much improved--some claim the ports improve the overall sound. |
Author: | LuthierSupplier [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:55 am ] |
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I love sound ports, and do believe it gives the player a 3D kind of sound to the instrument. I also think it increases projection too! This is just based off of my experience, and no statistical research to back it up. I always reinforce the area with a black & white veneer after the sides are bent. I know Paul Woolson does his before, but to me it was easier after. As long as you don't plan to bind the sound port after, you will be okay. I used a soft foam as a caul to glue it in the veneers. Here is one I did on my bouzouki: Tracy |
Author: | Anthony Z [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:14 am ] |
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Soundports are great. I just played a builders OM last night with a soundport and found that it really improved the sound for the player. Think of it as a monitor. A simple test of covering and uncovering the soundport convinced me. |
Author: | Alan Carruth [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:23 pm ] |
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My own measurements suggest to me that the port is mostly good as a monitor. It gets some of the high-end sound, that they would normally only hear in reflections, out to the player. A large port can alter the timbre of the instrument. Again, my own experiments say that they don't improve the overall sound output significantly. Now, I have to say that I have found one paper that claims they do add to the output. He did his measurements differently from mine, and that may have made a difference, so I'm trying to repeat his results. I also think that my tests were more like the 'real world', so even if I can get the results he got they may not mean as much as they seem to on the surface. Stay tuned, but don't hold your breath. |
Author: | K.O. [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:34 pm ] |
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Dulcimers seem like a good candidate for side porting. Have done some drawings but no builds yet. |
Author: | Andy Zimmerman [ Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:35 pm ] |
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Lillian Yes, there is a thin veneer of ebony |
Author: | CecilJ [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:23 pm ] |
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I have a soundport on my new guitar. When I play the guitar with the soundport covered the guitar does not sound as good to me. I am thinking of having soundports added to some of my other guitars. I do not know if people sitting a few meters in front of me could notice a difference but I surely can while I am playing. |
Author: | Howard Klepper [ Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:15 pm ] |
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